How To Be A Doer Instead Of A Sayer | Mark T. | Better Man Podcast Ep. 118

Dean Pohlman: Hey guys it’s Dean. Welcome to the Betterment Podcast. Today is a member interview and we have Mark T here from Clacton on Sea in Essex about an hour and a half from London. And he’s going to tell us his, his story. So Mark, thanks for being here.

Mark T.: Thanks for having me. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: And what I really like about your story is you haven’t been doing manual yoga that long, right? When when did you get started?

Mark T.: I suppose I’ve been doing it about three months. Maybe. I, I come across it on Facebook and I. For the six weeks. Was it the strength foundations course or challenge? Tried that first. Enjoyed it, didn’t complete it. That’s quite hard. Yeah. Yes.

Dean Pohlman: Talented it is.

Mark T.: And, Yeah. Then I, did get a subscription. But again, maybe it might be quite some time to get around to actually utilizing it and doing it on a regular basis. Very much it’s very much a stop start kind of person, and I need to get over that. You know, I need to make that commitment and with with anything really.

Mark T.: It’s funny because with work, I’m very committed six days a week. And I’ve been doing that the projects and doing that every night. Total in Spanish, which okay, that’s been very good with my accent.

Dean Pohlman: That’s probably fun,

Mark T.: Hola, Hola.

Dean Pohlman: I live and we’ll we’ll come hang out with me in Texas. We, we get plenty of, plenty of Spanish practice here.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So, so what was it that, that made you go looking for something like, man for yoga?

Mark T.: I needed to find something that I could do. I keep my kid excuses and putting things off in my garage. I’ve got, a weights kite, the rack, the squat rack and everything. So excuse was. Can’t go in there. It’s too dark because I’ve got no electricity in there. So I built a solar panel and light in that.

Mark T.: In there. Oh, it’s too cold or it’s too hot tonight, and it’s just, And I know I’ve got to do something. Well, I’ll be so sedentary charging the taxi. And I’m saying to myself, and I used to do weights years ago when I was about 20, and I enjoyed it, but, having that break of falling off and getting started.

Mark T.: So the, try tried the challenge at first, enjoyed it, and like, didn’t complete it. I suppose I’d done about three and a half weeks. And then I started slipping back into the, Well, missed a day or two. Missed tomorrow. Yeah. And then I was I was sitting at home and I beat myself up about it, and then I thought, yeah, you know what I’ve got.

Mark T.: I keep saying to my partner, don’t be a celibate. Do, don’t keep saying tomorrow or the next time, just do it. And then I was thinking to myself, well, I can make commitments. I’ve been doing the language. That work is a regular thing, you know? And then I said, right, make time, put that time aside.

Mark T.: So I thought 7:00 in the morning, if a sessions 30, 40 minutes, I can do that. I have a shower. I’m out the door. Still were a o’clock in the morning, which is when I stop. And, that morning, well, I think I took my son to work for. I believe he starts work at seven. I’ll go back.

Mark T.: I’ll go back. Just before seven was about sit on the sofa, and I was down home. You keep telling yourself, do it. Just do it. So I started right from the beginning. Absolute beginners. Today. Today I’ve just started 90 days to flexible. So I’m okay in a great in a pattern that you’ve set out. And. Yeah, just saying to myself, right.

Mark T.: You haven’t got to do it every day. If you could do it three, three times a week, four times, might be more. So I’m averaging between 4 and 6 sessions a week, which yeah, I’ve come from sort of nothing to something.

Dean Pohlman: Right. Yeah. Zero instead.

Mark T.: Of yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah 4 to 6 instead of zero. Play better.

Mark T.: Yeah. Yeah. It’s. Yeah. As I think I’ve mentioned here before, I, I saw chiropractor played him several times. And the problem I was felt was in my back. But, it was more on my hips. Well, hip alignment. So of course, you’ve got so many hip actions and stretches and I think my, my first sort of spark was I was walking the dog and I was conscious of my posture.

Mark T.: And I think I’ve mentioned that and said, do you know? Well, I’ve been doing this for a bit and I feel taller. Then you commented on it and said, well, you’re correct in your posture and yeah, and now it’s I’m walking the dog. I’m not so hunched over, but now, get them shoulders. But yeah, it feels good.

Mark T.: Feels good. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Well, there’s a I mean, there’s a lot of really good things that you said that I want, that I want to point out. So the one thing, was I love that you gave yourself less restrictive requirements. So instead of saying, I have to do every workout every day that it’s scheduled, you just you just said, I’m going to do 4 to 6 workouts.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. And then recognizing that the strength Foundation’s challenge might have been you might have been able to do it consistently if you really force yourself, but it sounded like that was just too much to force yourself to do. So you went back and you did Absolute Beginners instead, which is a program that I made for the point of establishing consistency.

Dean Pohlman: And so that allowed you to be consistent. And then, you know, so for me, what I’m always curious about is when you’re first getting started and you’re having those moments of deciding whether or not to do it right. You mentioned that you were kind of a stop and start guy. Yeah. For a long time. Well, the one thing was you realized you do actually make commitments.

Dean Pohlman: You looked at those examples in your own life and you said, well, I work six days a week. I do that, and I’ve been consistent with this language app so I can do this, realizing that you are the type of person. Yeah, who can be consistent. But the other part of that is having some sort of clarity on motivation as to why it’s important.

Dean Pohlman: So before you were saying that you recognized, you know, your your, do I say cabbie, is that the is that the British British tree.

Mark T.: Yes. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. You have such a sedentary job where you’re sitting so frequently, so, you know, is there what’s the motivation behind that? Is there is there a fear that you’re not going to be healthy as you get older? Or what’s kind of what’s driving that motivation?

Mark T.: Yeah. All of a sudden I noticed those, involuntary noises you might get in in an act, you know, you got. Oh, yes. Do you know, and then you think, where did that come from? It’s, it’s all of a sudden just common. Getting in and out of the car was a bit of a struggle, you know?

Mark T.: Got kind of. I had a very low car up until recently, and, I’m sort of almost rolling out of the car, I think, now. And, and I’m thinking, you know, this has got to be corrected. I’ve got to do something about this because I’ll end up retiring and I won’t be fit to do nothing. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: And how old are you now?

Mark T.: 50.

Dean Pohlman: 50. Okay. Yeah. Oh, so that’s a big milestone. Do you think that turning 50, you had a realization like.

Mark T.: Possibly. Possibly. Yeah. I mean, I’ve been saying I need to do something to get myself in better shape. Just mobile need to improve my mobility because it’s as I sit down all day is it’s not good, it’s not healthy. And they need to get around and, may not pick up whole different people for different walks of life.

Mark T.: And you see the people bending over with a stick. Plus some, you know, and then you see someone who’s 92 walk about upright, going shopping, doing it. And I’ll say it, do you know what I and you’re actually wearing me out watching you. Yeah. No.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. That’s cool. So you get to see all these different examples of what, hey, this is what life could be like, in a bad way. And in the end, in a good way.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So so that motivation, realizing that, okay, I’ve got to take better care of myself. And I don’t want to feel achy, and I want to enjoy when I actually retire.

Mark T.: Yeah. And so it’s a challenge. Yeah. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So what do you think enabled you to be, you know, so you mentioned that the, the strength foundations, you struggle to be consistent with that. But then you are but then you started Absolute Beginners and I think you did. You did the workouts. You said 4 to 6 times a week. So. Yeah. What do you think enabled you to to be consistent, especially during that first month when you were getting into the habit?

Mark T.: Yeah. Jen. So. Well, I can’t be too hard on yourself if you can’t make too many sessions. Don’t beat yourself because you’re only you’re the one suffering. You know, if you can do two, that’s better than none. If you could do three but a 1 or 2, you know. And might that. Right. What do I do in the moments before work?

Mark T.: I’m nothing. Sit there, scroll through Facebook or watch the news, which is just on a constant repetitive loop and, you know, you could be doing something. You’ve got 30 minutes to spare. And get on the mat, get down there. What do you need? Do you need to go anywhere? Now? You’re in that age. You’re in your house, in the womb.

Mark T.: Well, then that’s, What else do you need? Two blocks and a strength. Yeah. And that’s that’s a big part of it as well. I haven’t got to get change. I haven’t got to go anywhere. I haven’t got to get a load of equipment. I can just put the videos, so. And watch yourself follow along. Okay.

Mark T.: Some things I can’t do, some things I can’t do very well. And I especially straightening my legs of these simple hamstrings, very tight, you know, up if you keep doing it, keep progressing bit by bit. Starting to see improvements. And yeah when you I mean the one thing I do need to do is get a mirror or video myself to

Mark T.: Oh yeah. Like the most, but my main thing at the moment is a consistency. That’s the main thing I’ll want to make sure. Stop. Don’t be a bad doer.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. And, and, I think you’re, I think you nailed it, too, with being consistent because all those other benefits are going to come. Yeah. As long as you’re consistent, the prerequisite for all of those things is, is consistency. I also want to say that I really like that you recognize to not be too hard on yourself and to be kind to yourself, number one, because you’re British and you’re extremely self-deprecating and just.

Dean Pohlman: Extremely. So, so, you know, hats off to you there. But also because a lot of people who get started with fitness, they, they have kind of this guilt focused motivation. They’re like, oh, you fat ass, get off, you know? Yeah, get on, get on the mat or like, oh, you’re so stupid you couldn’t even do your workout today.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. And that, you know, and that can work. But it’s not it’s not going to work long term and you’re not going to feel great about it. So you know, not being too hard on yourself is is really important. So the the other thing you mentioned noticing improvement. So how long did it take you to start noticing improvements.

Dean Pohlman: And, you know, did that help with motivation?

Mark T.: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. If you say an improvement in anything then it gives you the encouragement that’s in it and the enthusiasm to carry on. I mean, as I say, the push to get the notes in walking the dog and off, I feel taller and concentrating more on breathing as well. You know, when I’m walking the dog count one, two, 34123412.

Mark T.: Oh yeah. Well, you know, trying to listen to your body yourself as well.

Dean Pohlman: I thought I was the only crazy person who counted while I walked. So I’m glad to know that I’m not the only person who counts their breathing while they’re okay.

Mark T.: Oh, I don’t do it all the time. Just. Oh, yeah.

Dean Pohlman: That would be impossible. But, you know.

Mark T.: Just checking, just checking. Listen to yourself and. Yeah. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So how long did it take you to notice those things? Do you, do you remember?

Mark T.: I would say so the, the briefing was when I got onto the breaths here is when I really took notice of that. So that was and very quickly. But I’d say within the first month, month or so, towards the latter part started. Yeah. Started feeling freer. My hand. So my back was a lot free. As well.

Mark T.: Yeah. But then I’ve also gone from doing nothing and sitting all day to doing something. So, as I say, I saw a chiropractor, a few weeks ago, and that’s when I put that post, on the community page. And I think that was the realization then, you know, you can obviously you feel better in yourself and improvement.

Mark T.: But when I’ve got this professional guy there and as I said, beforehand I’d send like a piece of bubble wrap on the table. And I said the best way I could describe it. Yeah. And they said to me, it’s been three months since I’d say that. And I suppose that was when I got started my be testing to it.

Mark T.: So yeah, I hadn’t been doing that long of saying it’s got me on the table and studying the usual routine, any sort. Well if you’ve been doing it said there’s said you looking really good. You looked really good. They said there’s hardly any corrections to make. Yeah, yeah. Honestly it’s that’s why I’ve put the post up there because I was just sore.

Mark T.: Well it is professional now. And I told them and they said, you know, well, I’ve got to get back to my yoga. Yeah, I think it’s pretty cool. Yeah. So that sort of gave me the proof as well by a professional, not just in myself.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. So some professional validation. Yeah. That’s awesome. Yeah. So. And then, do you remember when that dog walking the dog moment happened, when you realized you had good posture and.

Mark T.: You’re like, oh, yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah, I’ll kind of I’ll just remember. I mean, I’ve only got a small dog. We’ve had a gut check. Russell. So it’s not a big beast. Well, it’s a little beast. Oh, yeah.

Dean Pohlman: That’s good. She encourages you to get out at least. Or she.

Mark T.: Yeah, definitely. She does. Yeah. Yeah, I was just walking around the field and. As I say, listening to myself and feel fairly myself. You understand? You and I take him on notice and. Yeah, just, a space where I can describe it. I just felt taller. And you know what? Then the chest come out a bit and.

Mark T.: Yeah, you know. Well, we’re not we’re not. Come on. We’re not been. We just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just felt good. It felt good, I felt good.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah. That’s great. So, so I’m curious, what were some other, you know, what were some other improvements that you noticed in your life? Just a result of just being consistent with the exercise?

Mark T.: Well, fitness wise, becoming more flexible, and I just, I’m a long way off yet, you know, don’t get me wrong, but seeing improvements, getting them further, getting my legs a bit straighter. Other things. I’ve. I’m taking more notice of my nutrition. I’m thinking, well, everyone says up in the kitchen, you know.

Dean Pohlman: Yes.

Mark T.: You should really take notes of what you’re putting in to fill yourself. So that’s taking a lot more consideration. Drinking a lot more water as well in the morning. So I don’t put the coffee on. I’ve got two pints of water. Great. Yeah. It’s just, now again, that’s something else I feel so much better for, you know, not just sitting there having a coffee.

Mark T.: Well, in the drinking a cup of coffee first thing in the morning to wake up when I’m awake. Yeah, yeah.

Dean Pohlman: How old is your son?

Mark T.: My son. He’s 20. Okay, okay. The 20 year old son in a 22 year old daughter.

Dean Pohlman: It’s wonderful. So, you know, so. So they’re mostly. They’re mostly grown. You’re not. You’re not, you’re not in the small child phase anymore. Oh, no. I’m trying to.

Mark T.: Cope with it now. And he’s he’s definitely not a spoiled child because he towers over me at six foot 4 or 6ft 5 or 7, and he’s well. Oh, wow.

Dean Pohlman: Okay. So that’s great. So you’re more flexible, more notice on your nutrition. And was that kind of just like, was that just kind of a natural. Yeah, regression of.

Mark T.: Yeah. Just think it’s it’s come a little bit by bit. Yeah. No, don’t like with the training. Don’t, don’t try and run before you can walk bit by bit. They’ll change is small changes small changes and build on it if you can. Whereas before when I was into something I’d be totally gung ho and like not guitar.

Mark T.: So the guitar is up there. I’ve been trying to learn to play them things and then. On the.

Dean Pohlman: Yes very cool.

Mark T.: On the I.

Dean Pohlman: Was a great but I’ve got I’m a bass guitarist but I, I haven’t been consistent with them since I was in college.

Mark T.: I yeah. So again it’s different all that half an hour and then it just stops. It just stops again. Something else a stop start kicks in.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. So I get so so and you talked about it already. What. What has enabled you to not be stopped. Start with the with yoga I think noticing noticing that it’s actually doing something and then you know, the alternative like, well you could watch the news and do Facebook or you could, you could, you know, do something, do something for yourself.

Dean Pohlman: So I think that’s, I think that’s great. So my next question is you already talked about nutrition. You talked about, you know, you talked about, how that’s the next thing. Do you have, do you have another plan? Do you have a grand vision that you’re kind of working towards, or what’s the next step in your overall fitness?

Dean Pohlman: Yeah.

Mark T.: Well, I think with my with the yoga, I make that commitment to 7:00 in the mornings so that they see afternoons free of. I’ve got a good friend to go for me. The show program, mobility is, okay. Personal trainer certificate. And again, I started doing that and then that slipped away. But I’ve gradually so.

Mark T.: Right. Okay. It’s two workouts after work Monday, Wednesday, Friday to see if you can do some of them again. Yeah, I’m to do it. Oh yeah. Don’t beat yourself up. You’re 50 years old. You’re a bit tubby. You sit all day, you’re not gonna you’re not going to complete everything you want to do, but I did, I thought, to do the yoga in the mornings and get into some more strength.

Mark T.: Some weight training in the afternoons might be a bit of running. That’s that’s what I would love to get to, but it’s it’s going to take time to get in.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. Well it’s great that you recognize that it’s going to take time and you’re not trying to force it, because I think where a lot of people mess up, especially within our community. But I think men in general is they try to do the all or nothing and then they, you know, they go all in and they are able to do that for a week or two weeks, and then they don’t do everything that they wanted to do immediately and they’re like, oh, I’m a failure.

Dean Pohlman: I and I give up, you know? So I think recognizing that it’s about developing the, you know, the habit, not necessarily level ten. Yeah. Of the habit. That’s that’s what’s going to enable that consistency. Yeah. So can I ask about your can I ask about your weight. What do you, what do you weight. Have you, have you lost weight since you got started or what’s the,

Mark T.: I have lost some, I’ve always fluctuated between only by oneself. The other day, actually. So I’m not one of those people. More how you feel and how you look than in pounds. But yeah, I’ve always fluctuated between 98 kilos and 102 K. Excuse me, and 102 ish kilos, weight myself. At two, two days ago, 2 or 3 days ago, and for the first time in a long time, I was just over 94 kilos.

Dean Pohlman: Wow.

Mark T.: Okay, so.

Dean Pohlman: Then and then for for our for our American listeners who, who can’t translate to metric that quickly, that would be, that’s about four times 2.4. So 12 pounds, you’re about 12 pounds down. Yeah. Or 10 pounds.

Mark T.: Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. And that’s.

Dean Pohlman: That’s without really much. That’s without even really I mean you’re not counting your, your macros. You’re not.

Mark T.:

Dean Pohlman: You’re just enough watching what you eat.

Mark T.: I’m, I have a problem with. So this portion control.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. Yes. And, into that, you and you and many others. Yeah. What are portion sizes, like where you live?

Mark T.: Large.

Dean Pohlman: Large, yeah. Okay. I’m on to west.

Mark T.: I’ve heard that the, portion sizes in America can be quite large.

Dean Pohlman: Oh, we do it. We do it better than anybody else.

Mark T.: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dean Pohlman: The just the absolute best portion sizes.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: I remember going to, I, I think a good example of this. I remember going to a diner, I had a soul retreat for myself. My wife sent me off, like, on a, a day trip for myself to stay in a cabin and just, you know, be with myself for a while. And, I remember going out the next, the morning of and finding, you know, I kind of like, mom and pop diner place.

Dean Pohlman: And I went in and I was like, oh, I think I’m going to get two dishes because I’m really hungry. And the first dish they brought out, I was like, I can’t even eat all this food. And I eat a lot of food. I eat a ton of food. So, yeah, portion control definitely makes things, definitely makes things really challenging.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So I want to I want to kind of circle back to that, to, to your motivation for a second because I think that’s important. So when you look at, you know, you’re doing yoga every day at 7 a.m., you’re going to start doing you’re working on integrating some, some weight training into this and mobility work in the afternoons.

Dean Pohlman: Just doing what you can, what what do you what do you think of what do you remember, in terms of motivation, in terms of helping you work through some of those times when you don’t really want to do it or you feel tired or, you know, other stuff comes up?

Mark T.: Yeah. Just remember the the feeling you get after it, you know, not just physically. The sense that fun, you know, I could I could have skipped that, but instead, did I want to do it? No, not today, but you done it good. You know. Yeah. Just. Yeah. That. Yeah. That pride. Yeah. Eventually kick your own ass for a challenge.

Mark T.: Yeah. You know I fell for that sitting on it. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: I mean did you, do you notice that your day I mean you talked about are you drinking less coffee.

Mark T.: Yeah. Well, I didn’t drink a lot of coffee anyway, but, I’ve got, a bit of a quirky habit in the mornings. I was just like a cup of tea and a cup of coffee, and I’ll be both at the same time. Yeah. Because it’s.

Dean Pohlman: Not. I’ve never heard of that.

Mark T.: I because I like tea, not coffee. I mean great. I’ll go have a cup of tea.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. I mean it makes sense to me I guess if you like, both. And just do them both. Yeah, yeah. So you’re a morning person.

Mark T.: But as I say before that, Yeah. Now it’s, good. Couple of pints, Walter. Small things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Feel sure that set you up for the day when you’ve done a workout and you’ve had a shower? Think. Yeah. I’ll come ready for the day. Now, let’s do this. I’ve done something positive and improve myself, hopefully first thing in the day.

Mark T.: So I think mentally could set your day up a bit better.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So I keep on I keep on wanting to ask questions about, about your kids and their influence on your, on your health practices. Do you think it was do you think it was harder to be? Do you think it would have been harder to have an exercise program when they were younger versus the age that they are now?

Dean Pohlman: Or how do you how do you think your availability to work out? Well, with yourself has changed?

Mark T.: Yeah. When I was younger, I mean, my son lives with my my daughter with her mom. But when when they were younger, you know, I used to go to the gym quite a lot. I used to go most mornings for, for my be five mornings, Monday to Friday. And again, you’ve actually reminded me that because then I used to do that first thing in the mundane as well.

Mark T.: It used to be down there doing the weights at 7:00. And again, that was inspiring because all the people up with there were all elderly retired people who said, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I mean I’m, I’m talking good 20, 20 years ago. Well not 15 years ago. Sorry. 15. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Dean Pohlman: So has and then kind of the last question I have here before we go into, you know, asking my rapid fire questions is have you utilized community much to support you with Fitness Journey or how has social structure been helpful?

Mark T.: Yeah, the community is brilliant. Absolutely fantastic. It’s so supportive and it’s good seeing guys and cracking on and doing ever so well. Different ages, all different shapes and sizes and again, this that’s motivational and they inspire, you know I mean I feel like I’m a big guy sometimes. And you’ve got a guy twice the size I’m used to.

Mark T.: It is doing it better. Me well done. My well, you know, if he can do it well or should know well, I should not be trying, you know, and yeah, the feedback and the comments you get, I’ve, I’ve posted a few things on there and go, oh positive and encourage it in replies and yeah, it’s it’s a good family.

Mark T.: So like a little brother hydrate it. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah it is I’m very proud of that. The community that we built and I’m glad you’re part of it and contributing because, you know, all those others. I think a lot of people don’t really see themselves, at least the things that I’ve heard and doing a lot of these interviews and, and, you know, talking with people is people don’t necessarily see themselves as well.

Dean Pohlman: I’m not really that good at this fitness stuff. But then other people start to message them and they start to comment on them on their stuff. And then they say like, oh, well, maybe I do need to post this because these guys are depending on me. I’ve got a, you know, show up. Yeah. So it’s, you know, it’s kind of cool seeing that transition happen.

Mark T.: Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: So my so my four questions here and this is my rapid fire part. First one is what is one habit, belief or mindset that has helped you with your overall health and wellness?

Mark T.: Is one. Just just a sense of doing something for yourself. You’ve got up, you’ve done it good. You can’t do it. All those times you’ve talked yourself out of it. Now you got up and started. There you go. Keep going. Filled feel improve so they improvements, you know, like yourself on the back. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah. What’s one thing that you do for your health that is often overlooked or undervalued by others?

Mark T.: Where they’re not interested in, yeah. My son is not interested. But part this is the interest. But. Yeah, but yeah, it’s to know. Well, you not doing it for someone else. You did it for yourself.

Dean Pohlman: So just not being interested in fitness whatsoever.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah that’s true. What is the the most stressful part of your day to day life.

Mark T.: Keep driving. Driving. Oh sorry. Other drivers.

Dean Pohlman: Other drivers. Yes.

Mark T.: Yes.

Dean Pohlman: Are you are you getting better at or you get getting better at managing your reactions of that has the breath series you need with that.

Mark T.: Yeah. Yeah. I mean I was, for suffering for, Angry Road, right? If that was the case, I would have had a heart attack years ago. You can’t. You can’t do it. And, But, yeah, there’s someone cut you up on a round, but if you go, just.

Mark T.: Yeah. I’ll let someone go. Thank you. Nothing. Oh, right. Okay. Enjoy your day.

Dean Pohlman: Yeah, yeah, that’s a great way to do it. All right. And then what’s your best piece of advice for men who want to be healthier?

Mark T.: Well, just think about what you want to do for yourself and try and get a consistent time. I think this is a thing with me, with the moments I put the time in. If you can afford to pay for 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes is better than no minutes. And, and actually sit down and think about what you want to do or where you want to be.

Mark T.: You know, you’re not going to climb the mountain in a day. You know just one step is better than five steps. Just be true to yourself and don’t beat yourself up bit by bit by bit by bit consistent small habits like in bigger jumps. You know. Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: No. Well said. All right. Well is there anything else you want to say.

Mark T.: Not just thank you. So. Well, if you’re in the spend in and yeah it’s got me going, it’s got me going and I’ve been pretty consistent. So and this is why sometimes I’ll put a post on Facebook because I want to see that in a year and say, a year ago, you’re still doing it. So.

Dean Pohlman: So I’m yeah I mean I think as long as you’re following all your own advice here and you know, maybe using relying on the community when things you know, when you, when you fall off the wagon because that’s normal. I have no reason to doubt that this will, this will be you in a year and you’ll be. Who knows, you’ll be, a bit lighter, a bit stronger, a bit more flexible.

Mark T.: Yeah.

Dean Pohlman: All those things. So, Yeah. And again, I really like your story just because you haven’t been doing it that long and you’re already noticing the improvements and already active in the community. So, so, yeah, I’m glad that you did this. And I want I want to thank you for just giving me another yoga shot. Well, so so thank you.

Mark T.: Thanks again for having me. And thanks for all you’re doing. Of course I enjoy it. Well most I don’t into it. Planks. No.

Dean Pohlman: That’s okay. We’ll get there. Yeah I appreciate it up. All right guys. Well listening in, thank you so much for tuning into this episode. I hope you enjoyed the conversation I had here with Mark. I hope you’re enjoying the, reclaiming your Fitness series. And I hope this inspires you to be a better man. I’ll see you on the next episode.

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